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Status Not under consideration
Workspace z/OS
Created by Guest
Created on Feb 14, 2020

Request to change the time condition in CPM policies from GMT to local time.

This RFE is to request changing the time conditions in the Capacity Provisioning Manager policy from using GMT time to using local time.

Idea priority Medium
  • Guest
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    Oct 14, 2020

    Hello, I read the developer anwser and I have to say that having CPM messages (SYSLOG, JOBLOG and OPERLOG) based on GMT makes CPM really unusable and misleading for system operators and system administrators.
    The case in which CPM have to coordinate systems with different local time is a very particular case vs the majority of cases in which there is a unique time-zone and even if different time-zones, each system should receive CPO messages with the correct local time letting the CPM translate its internal time GMT to local time when sending WTO to the controlled systems. This is true for all z/OS components and it should also be true for CPM.
    Please implement messages in both modes (GMT and Local time-zone) and let the user decide which mode to use.
    Thanks a lot for your attention.

  • Guest
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    Oct 14, 2020

    At least please, implement messages in both way (GM and Local Time) and the let the user decide which mode to use. Thanks!

  • Guest
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    Oct 14, 2020

    At least please, implement messages in both way (GM and Local Time) and the let the user decide which mode to use. Thanks!

  • Guest
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    Oct 14, 2020

    Hello, I read the developer anwser and I have to say that having CPM messages (SYSLOG, JOBLOG and OPERLOG) based on GMT makes CPM really unusable and misleading for system operators and system administrators.
    The case in which CPM have to coordinate system with different local time is a very particular case and even if so, each system should receive CPO messages with the correct local time letting the CPM translate its internal time GMT to local time when sending WTO to the controlled systems. This is true for all z/OS components and it should also be true for CPM. Thanks for the attention.

  • Guest
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    Sep 14, 2020

    CPM's domain spans several CPCs and systems, each of which might be defined to a different time zone.
    This requires compromises when putting all actions into a (legible) chronological order.
    Therefore, CPM intentionally uses UTC as reference for time-conditions and omits handling of DST changes.

    CPM intends to give a timely uniform view to all its planned, ongoing and past activities.
    As an example, understanding a single activation on a single CPC, but which has been triggered concurrently by multiple workload on several systems with different time-zones, is more comprehensive if all of the triggering moments are listed with a single (UTC) time reference instead of displaying each trigger with a differing local time.
    You may vary this case with subsequent activations triggered by different time-zoned system's workload on a single CPC: which came first, or which time-lag was in-between?
    Then there are scheduled activations: for a comprehensive chronological order - especially when listed together with workload triggered activations - CPM takes UTC are reference as well.
    CPM's tests and reviews have shown that operators usually were confused when being confronted with multiple time-zones within a single policy or report.

    We also found it difficult to let specify or automaticall decide which (single) time-zone should be used for management.
    Letting the operator explicitly set one time-zone in the policy is difficult: workload conditions allow to specify a system filter (*) which may span multiple systems, possibly belonging to different time-zones; letting CPM find out shortly before the time-condition starts (because the system has been IPLed only recently) that the observed system is set to a different time-zone, would cause additional confusion.
    Letting CPM set a single time-zone automatically, e.g. using the local time-zone of the CPM runtime system, has also been discarded by design, because it would disallow a CPM failover to another runtime-system with different time-zone and DST setting during management.

    The basic question of CPM's design is: do we benefit from the ability of CPM to manage CPCs and systems defined to different time-zones and accept the resulting restrictions in regard to DST handling, or do we restrict management to a single time-zone reference and possibly benefit from DST handling?
    CPM made a choice for the first variant.

  • Guest
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    Aug 19, 2020

    Due to processing by IBM, this request was reassigned to have the following updated attributes:
    Brand - Servers and Systems Software
    Product family - z Systems Software
    Product - z/OS
    Component - BCP_Capacity Provisioning
    Operating system - IBM z/OS
    Source - Client

    For recording keeping, the previous attributes were:
    Brand - Servers and Systems Software
    Product family - z Systems Software
    Product - IBM Z Performance and Capacity Analytics
    Component - All
    Operating system - z/OS
    Source - Client